She came here from Mexico and entered the adult industry before she turned 20. Now a contract director for Smash Pictures, Haley Paige is planning on heating things up behind the camera as well as in front of it. In this interview with XRentDVD's Big D, Haley Paige discusses her experiences as a first time director, who she would love to cast in future movies and why she is taking a break from doing so much anal.
Big D: You were born in Mexico but grew up in the San Diego area. Take us through coming to the United States and eventually getting into the adult side of things at age 19?
Haley Paige: I didn't really start doing DVDs until I was 22 or 23 so my start in actual porn was then. My dad just couldn't hold down a job so he moved us like three or four times a year. Right after I graduated I got my own place and started to stick to one place. I was asked to move to Australia for a year and then I came back and I got into the adult business while in San Diego.
Big D: What was the first movie you appeared in when you first started? I know you used different stage names before settling on Haley Paige. What was your first movie ever and then what was your first movie as Haley Paige?
Haley Paige: The first movie I ever did must have been with one of the San Diego companies. Looking back I think it might have been Perfect Video. I am not sure which one was my first as Haley Paige. There was another Haley running around and I didn't want to be confused with her so I had to add the last name Paige to myself. Just for security reasons and to not be confused with somebody that sucks.
Big D: Have you been happy with the name change and the way your career has gone since making the switch?
Haley Paige: Yeah, it was a really good move for me. Everybody tells me you have to have two names. If you only go by one name it's harder to find you and track you down and write to you or find you on the internet. It's much better for the people that want to find me online if I had a second name.
Big D: After being in the business for about two years, you just agreed to a directing deal with Smash Pictures. You've never directed before, what do you think your style will bring to Smash?
Haley Paige: I just finished the movie actually and I am really happy with it. It's called 'Virgin Territory'. I think I will bring a different view to Smash. Not a lot of people have the same vision as I do. The scenes are kind of rough which is okay because that is the way I like it. All the girls are extra, extra nice and were willing to give me 110 percent and help me out. They are all my friends and they know how hard it is for a woman director to be taken seriously. They wanted to help me in any way they could and they did a great job.
Big D: Why do you think that is? Male performers like Manuel Ferrara, Erik Everhard and Mike Stefano among others are well known as directors and performers while some women directors are considered talent first and they also direct on the side. Why is it so hard for women directors to be taken seriously?
Haley Paige: It's because so many women come in out of porn. Any woman can be a performer. She just needs to have sex which most women can do. For guys, it is really hard. Guys are taken way more seriously because they have the harder job. They have to keep their wood and actually have an orgasm and not fake it. With all the women coming in and out, I think the female talent got a really bad name through some of them. They still do. Their lifespan in the business is usually two to six months and that is if they do okay. Even if they are nice and enthusiastic about it maybe they will stay a couple of years. Our name (women directors) has been dragged through the mud because of a few people. I can't say I blame people for believing it. There are a lot of crack heads out there.
Big D: I doubt that one person can break that stereotype but what are you going to do that will help repair that image that women directors are on the same level as men?
Haley Paige: All I can do is work my hardest and put out the best adult DVDs I can. That's all I can do. What else can I do?
Big D: Why did you decide to go with Smash Pictures? Were there other studios out there trying to get you to direct for them?
Haley Paige: There were a couple that were interested. Smash has a lot of quick thinkers. If something is a good idea, they just go for it. They don't sit around and say, 'okay, now we have to talk to this person who now has to talk to that person'. They get it.
Big D: I heard that your first film you directed was opening one door and closing another. In that I mean that DVD will be your directorial debut but also be the last time you do anal. Why the choice to stop doing anal?
Haley Paige: I stopped doing anal around December 2005. I stopped doing it for private reason I would rather not say. Actually I am willing to do anal for projects I do for Smash. It's not that I can only do it for them, I can do it for other movies too but I am making it very limited. I think it will work because it will be in my movies and will be something extra to attract people to it.
Big D: Are there some directors that you have worked for that might have influenced your directing style and influenced you wanting to direct?
Haley Paige: Yeah, there really is only one director out there that I think is really good. That's Chico Wang. He has the best sense of humor and it shows. Each of his movies has something original about it. Also the fact that he is gay and he would never try to have sex with me on set is wonderful.
Big D: Is that a problem in that when you are a performer in porn that the people on set just think that anyone that shows up to work that day has a legit shot at nailing you?
Haley Paige: There are a lot of people out there that do try to do that to a lot of the newer girls that are a little naive. Personally, I don't think I would have fallen for it except for my first few weeks that I was new to porn. Maybe I would have fallen for it but many of them knew me as a nice girl. I don't think they would have done it to me but I have heard of it.
Big D: Are there some things that are involved in the porn industry that you particularly don't care for? Are there things you would like to change about the business in which you work?
Haley Paige: I think the agents should be able to notice the ones that are maybe a little too young and naive and take them aside and tell them what to expect, what someone might try. Some of them do and some of them don't. It just depends on the agents. Some girls will come in and they have the wrong agent andthey just don't get told anything. Those girls are doing scenes for half-ass companies. Then there are some agents that will pull them aside and tell them everything they will need to know. There are some that will do the research. They will know pretty much what they will get into and they will ask questions and they will find out that way.
Big D: Now that you have been in, what do you know now that you didn't think you would learn when you first started?
Haley Paige: You need an agent. You don't know who is reputable and who is not. Girls need to have a set rate. Without an agent they would have no idea what is fair. Some girls would be out there asking to receive $300 for a double anal scene. I thinK it is really important to stick to your limitations until you know you are comfortable with something. Maybe girls should stick to doing just boy/girl until they are really ready to do anal. You should not let anyone pressure you into anything.
Big D: What's your take on this whole fascination with anal in porn today?
Haley Paige: I think it is still really popular because to some people it is still really taboo in the real world. It's what people want to see and that is what people want to video tape. There is only so much demand for boy/girl scenes that it is very limited. I think that if you don't do anal you pretty much won't be bale to do porn at all. The envelope is getting pushed even further now.
Big D: Speaking of pushing the envelope, it seems like gonzo porn has been pushing it farther with some of the more extreme stuff out there. Anal used to be taboo but now it ends up in almost every adult DVD on the market place. Where is the envelope going to be pushed now? Where is porn headed?
Haley Paige: I don't know how far it can be pushed. My movies will all have anal in them because I know that is what people want and that is what they want to see. I don't know. I don't know if it will get pushed too far until no one wants to push it anymore. I think double anal will get more popular. I don't see it going too far because where else can you put everything? We're probably right there now anyway.
Big D: Now that you are a director, who do you want to cast, male and female in your upcoming movies?
Haley Paige: I pretty much know all the girls that are troopers and are really good. There are still some fresh faces that are starting to do anal. I pretty much know a lot of them because I have a really good relationship with the agencies. I want to start a new line that would include all new girls because the new faces are pretty popular. That's probably the next step I want to take. If Belladonna wasn't under contract I would want her in every movie. There are a lot of girls. It is hard for me to pick just a few. A great attitude is key. It is not important who they are as long as they are nice, have a good attitude and enjoy it. I don't like the girls that are just there to get paid. I don't like the ones that go do a scene and all they are thinking is 'when is my next payheck'. I want girls that forget they are even getting paid and then after the scene I have to ask them where to send the check.
Big D: Is this more of a transition where you will be doing more directing than performing?
Haley Paige: No, I am still performing. Maybe eventually if the directing thing takes off then I might just concentrate on directing and perform only in my own movies.
Big D: How long do you think you will stay performing and how long do you see yourself staying in any aspect of the porn business? Do you have other aspirations to move on and do other things outside of the adult film industry?
Haley Paige: I am studying psychology right now to be a sex therapist. Maybe that will be an option. I think if everything works out, porn will be a nice long career for me. I really like the industry. I have amassed so much time in it already it would be a shame to just leave without doing anything else.
Big D: First job?
Haley Paige: I worked at Blockbuster.
Big D: First concert?
Haley Paige: I went to the Woody Guthrie festival in Oklahoma. It was the most wonderful experience of my life because I love folk. (embarrassedly laughs) I think it should make a comeback. If folkologist was a job, I would be the head folkologist of the world.
Big D: First car?
Haley Paige: It was a little Nissan Sentra. I drove it until it totally broke down.
Big D: What's in your CD player right now?
Haley Paige: Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan. I don't usually listen to anyone else but them. Occasionally Tom Waite and the Smiths but I am normally very limited in what I listen to.
Big D: Favorite food?
Haley Paige: I like different foods. I like East Indian and Mexican. I am very picky so I normally like a certain dish of each kind.
Big D: First porn you ever watched?
Haley Paige: I didn't watch porn until I got into porn. I think the first must have been at a friend's or one of Derek's (LA Direct Models owner Derek Hay) when I was living at the apartment. It might have even been one of mine, I don't know.
Big D: Favorite position?
Haley Paige: Missionary for both on and off camera.
Big D: Go to the movies or go to the ballgame?
Haley Paige: Movies. If there is nothing good out I would probably go to the baseball game.
Big D: What modern convenience can you not live without?
Haley Paige: My washer and dryer are pretty important. I don't want to be stinky. As long as there is a pond somewhere I can take a bath in a pond. I don't care. But I am not going to wash my clothes in a pond.
Big D: Favorite mainstream movie?
Haley Paige: I like the classics. I like Betty Paige a lot. Probably something like Gone with the Wind.
Big D: Favorite vacation spot?
Haley Paige: Anywhere that has a nice warm temperature and a beach.
Big D: Person you'd like to meet that you have not met?
Haley Paige: Tom Robbins. He is an author who wrote Even Cowgirls Get the Blues.